[Auscope-geosciml] Remove ControlledConcept as a attribute-type/association-target, replace with ScopedName

[Simon Cox]

This points to another clean up needed in GeoSciML v3. 
*Except in the controlled-concept model itself* we should remove replace all
links to CC with ScopedName. 
 
*Ollie* - can you add this to the agenda please?
 

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[mailto:auscope-geosciml-bounces at lists.arcs.org.au] On Behalf Of Stephen M
Richard
Sent: Thursday, 3 September 2009 21:36
To: Boisvert, Eric
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Subject: Re: [Auscope-geosciml] RE : CGI Value abomination
[SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]


The xlink:href to controlled concepts only works for elements that take a
ControlledConcept as a value (and allow byReference); scopedName is the link
to controlledConcept when the element takes CGI_TermValue, which has a
value, which is a ScopedName, which we want to point at a controlledConcept.


The URI for the concept is unique, and the CGI identifier scheme actually
includes the classifierScheme in the URN, so including the classifierScheme
as the codespace for the concept is indeed redundant. If the
classifierScheme URI were easier to resolve it would be a convenience.
Better yet, perhaps we invent some sort of 'resolvable identifier' that
includes an attribute which is the URL for a resolver?

<Identifier
resolver="http://srvgeosciml.brgm.fr/exist/brgm_geosciml/concept.xql"
<http://srvgeosciml.brgm.fr/exist/brgm_geosciml/concept.xql>
codespace="urn:ietf:rfc:2141">urn:cgi:classifier:CGI:Lithology:200811:andesi
tic_rock</Identifier>

note that the codespace here is "urn:ietf:rfc:2141", because the identifier
is a URN.  The classifierScheme is
"urn:cgi:classifierScheme:CGI:Lithology:200811", which can be derived from
the URN.  This sort of scheme would require that the data consumer knows the
correct requests to make to the service to get a term definition or language
localization, which would be greatly facilitated if there was some standard
vocabulary service specification...

steve


Boisvert, Eric wrote: 

Can't someone remind me why we have apparently 2 ways to refered to
ControlledConcept ?

The xlink:href and the ScopesName.  I vaguely remember that if a scopeName
contains certains urn, the value must contains a urn.





  

in that case is the URI for the concept, the codespace is the URI for the
containing vocabulary

    



Aren't urn unique anyway ?.  Isn't the first urn redundant (or it's just a
'trigger' ?)



Eric





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Objet : Re: [Auscope-geosciml] RE : CGI Value abomination [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]



ScopedName is intended to account for controlled concepts, but we need to
make it clear that the 'name' in that case is the URI for the concept, the
codespace is the URI for the containing vocabulary (or do we pick a
different convention?), and establish an operational way to resolve these
URI's. These are application profile and architecture issues.

steve



Simon Cox wrote:

  

Yes - I still strongly urge y'all to attempt a 'cull' of the 

soft-typed values, and replace them with ScopedName (this _is_ 

ControlledConcept Steve!) or Measure wherever possible.

As Eric points out, you can actually write filters against those. 





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Institute for Environment and Sustainability, 

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