[Auscope-geosciml] CGI_Term in GeoSciML v3.0 [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

Simon Cox simon.cox at jrc.ec.europa.eu
Thu Mar 18 14:10:44 EDT 2010


Yes. 

 

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From: auscope-geosciml-bounces at lists.arcs.org.au
[mailto:auscope-geosciml-bounces at lists.arcs.org.au] On Behalf Of Létourneau,
François
Sent: 17 March 2010 13:01
To: auscope-geosciml at lists.arcs.org.au
Subject: Re: [Auscope-geosciml] CGI_Term in GeoSciML v3.0 [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

 

Shouldn't we apply the precaution principle and add the new classmaps tagged
as GML 3.3? In Fullmoon, it is quite easy to specify which GML version to
use for the encoding rules (in encoder.properties). That would require
however to recreate every existing classmaps for GML 3.3 and possibly modify
some of these new classmaps if other existing things change in GML 3.3 from
3.2.

 

François

 

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De : auscope-geosciml-bounces at lists.arcs.org.au
[mailto:auscope-geosciml-bounces at lists.arcs.org.au] De la part de Simon Cox
Envoyé : 17 mars 2010 02:57
À : Oliver.Raymond at ga.gov.au; auscope-geosciml at lists.arcs.org.au
Objet : Re: [Auscope-geosciml] CGI_Term in GeoSciML v3.0 [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

First we have to have agreement on whether it is desirable to make the
change now, and whether it should be in the default classmap, or a variant
that we choose to use. 

If we make it to the default, it means that FullMoon would no longer be
following the GML 3.2 encoding rule. 

 

Simon

 

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From: Oliver.Raymond at ga.gov.au [mailto:Oliver.Raymond at ga.gov.au] 
Sent: 16 March 2010 22:56
To: simon.cox at jrc.ec.europa.eu; auscope-geosciml at lists.arcs.org.au
Cc: ryan.fraser at csiro.au
Subject: RE: [Auscope-geosciml] CGI_Term in GeoSciML v3.0 [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

 

Hi Simon,

 

Who is responsible for making the required changes for FullMoon?

 

Cheers,

Ollie

 

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[mailto:auscope-geosciml-bounces at lists.arcs.org.au] On Behalf Of Simon Cox
Sent: Tuesday, 16 March 2010 5:59 PM
To: auscope-geosciml at lists.arcs.org.au
Subject: Re: [Auscope-geosciml] CGI_Term in GeoSciML v3.0 [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

 

Breaking news: 

 

In the GML 3.3 SWG last week the issue of how to refer to an item from a
controlled source consistently in GML was a hot topic. 

To summarize the conclusion I think it goes something like this:

 

1.       items in controlled vocabularies should have URIs (codeList,
controlledConcept, etc)

a.       this does not pre-judge how they are implemented, but obviously it
is RDF/SKOS/OWL- & http-friendly

2.       Feature properties that refer to items from controlled lists (i.e.
ScopedName) should be implemented using gml:ReferenceType (rather than
gml:CodeType)

a.       Xlink:href should point to the concept identifier

b.       Xlink:title _may_ be used to provide a human-consumable label, so
an interface can be built without resolving the URI

 
i.      (obviously this is not scalable to multi-lingual labelling)

 

This will get away from the ambiguity regarding what to put in @codeSpace
and what in the element. 

 

Note that 

(a)     this is my interpretation of the discussion (I’m charged with
writing it up, however) 

(b)     it has not yet been voted on, and 

(c)     would strictly only apply from GML 3.3. 

However, as it doesn’t break anything now and is a totally reasonable tweak
to the UML-XML mapping rule, I suggest that GeoSciML consider using this
rule now. 

 

In the FullMoon context it requires that one or more of these entries in
https://www.seegrid.csiro.au/subversion/HollowWorld/trunk/ClassMaps/ClassMap
_ISO_19103_CSL_GML32.xml be changed:

 

        <entry>
               <umlClass>GenericName</umlClass>
               <gmlObjectElement xsi:nil="true"/>
               <gmlType xsi:nil="true"/>
               <gmlPropertyType>gml:CodeType</gmlPropertyType> -> probably
leave alone, but try not to use GenericName in models
        </entry>
        <entry>
               <umlClass>LocalName</umlClass>
               <gmlObjectElement xsi:nil="true"/>
               <gmlType xsi:nil="true"/>
               <gmlPropertyType>gml:CodeType</gmlPropertyType> -> this
should be xs:string anyway
        </entry>
        <entry>
               <umlClass>ScopedName</umlClass>
               <gmlObjectElement xsi:nil="true"/>
               <gmlType xsi:nil="true"/>
               <gmlPropertyType>gml:CodeWithAuthorityType</gmlPropertyType>
-> change to gml:ReferenceType
        </entry>

 

Simon

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From: auscope-geosciml-bounces at lists.arcs.org.au
[mailto:auscope-geosciml-bounces at lists.arcs.org.au] On Behalf Of Alistair
Ritchie
Sent: 16 March 2010 00:52
To: auscope-geosciml
Subject: Re: [Auscope-geosciml] CGI_Term in GeoSciML v3.0 [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

 

How do I send a nice red face? Yes: 'qualifier on CGI_Term'. Thanks for
that.

If it's an attribute I'm pretty confident that's how it would encode, if it
is an element I'm a bit confused:

<gsml:lithology
codeSpace="urn:cgi:classifierScheme:CGI:SimpleLithology:200811">
     urn:cgi:classifierScheme:CGI:SimpleLithology:200811
     <gsml:qualifier>sometimes</gsml:qualifier>
</gsml:lithology>

Seems nasty.

WRT your question: I'm not Full Moon expert but I would have expected you
woul use a Tagged Value to define an attribute.

Alistair Ritchie
GEOSCIENCE VICTORIA | EARTH RESOURCES DIVISION
Department of Primary Industries | Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
Tel: +61 3 9658 4512 | Fax: +61 3 9658 4555

On 16 March 2010 10:00, <Oliver.Raymond at ga.gov.au> wrote:

Hi Alistair,

 

Re question 1.   Ah, you mean why is ‘qualifier’ mandatory in CGI_Term?   I
think it is just an oversight.  As far as I can tell, there was no
discussion of this point at Quebec?  Probably should be optional like in
v2.0.  

 

Re question 2.   Hmm, not exactly sure how this would encode.  Your attempt
is as good as I could do.

 

As a related question... In the UML, I have never known how to make an
attribute occur in the schema as an attribute within the tag (like
qualifier=”sometimes”), rather than as an attribute between the tags (like
<qualifier>sometimes</qualifier>).  eg; swe:AbstractDataComponent encodes
its attributes within its element tag, but I can’t see anything in the UML
which makes it different to swe:Quantity which encodes its attributes
outside the element tag.

 



 

<swe:Quantity definition="urn:test:xxx" fixed="false">

            <swe:uom xlink:href="#ppm"/>

            <swe:value>23.6</swe:value>

</swe:Quantity>

 

Any ideas?

 

Cheers,

Ollie

 

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Ollie Raymond

 

National Advice, Maps and Standards Project

Geoscience Australia

 

GeoSciML Design Group

IUGS Commission for the Management and Application of Geoscience Information

 

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[mailto:auscope-geosciml-bounces at lists.arcs.org.au] On Behalf Of Alistair
Ritchie

Sent: Tuesday, 16 March 2010 8:59 AM
To: auscope-geosciml
Subject: Re: [Auscope-geosciml] CGI_Term in GeoSciML v3.0 [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

 

Hi Ollie

The email address is registered and I've been using it since last year. Odd.

Is it an attribute like codeSpace? Would it encode as:

<gsml:lithology
codeSpace="urn:cgi:classifierScheme:CGI:SimpleLithology:200811"
qualifier="sometimes">
     urn:cgi:classifierScheme:CGI:SimpleLithology:200811</gsml:lithology>

Cheers

Alistair Ritchie
GEOSCIENCE VICTORIA | EARTH RESOURCES DIVISION
Department of Primary Industries | Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
Tel: +61 3 9658 4512 | Fax: +61 3 9658 4555

On 16 March 2010 08:45, <Oliver.Raymond at ga.gov.au> wrote:

Hi Alistair,

 

I think your email to the list bounced - your gmail account is probably not
registered with the list.

 

Could you rephrase question 2?  Doesn’t make sense to me.

 

Cheers,

Ollie

 

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Ollie Raymond

 

National Advice, Maps and Standards Project

Geoscience Australia

 

GeoSciML Design Group

IUGS Commission for the Management and Application of Geoscience Information

 

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<http://www.ga.gov.au/geoscience/national> 

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[mailto:auscope-geosciml-bounces at lists.arcs.org.au] On Behalf Of Alistair
Ritchie
Sent: Monday, 15 March 2010 5:20 PM
To: AuScope-GeoSciML
Subject: [Auscope-geosciml] CGI_Term in GeoSciML v3.0

 

Hi Everyone

Quick and easy questions concerning the new CGI_Term in GeoSciML 3.0:

1.      Why is it mandatory?

2.      Is it an attribute of CGI_Term?

Cheers
Alistair

Alistair Ritchie
GEOSCIENCE VICTORIA | EARTH RESOURCES DIVISION
Department of Primary Industries | Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
Tel: +61 3 9658 4512 | Fax: +61 3 9658 4555


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