[auscope-geosciml] RE : GeoSciML-Portrayal Schema [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

Thu Aug 4 21:04:11 EDT 2011

If I remember correctly the _ notation denotes an abstract type.

Out of curiosity I replaced all the substitutionGroup="gml:AbstractFeature" values with substitutionGroup="gml:_Feature" and removed the gml:AssociationAttributeGroup and gml:OwnershipAttributeGroup attribute group references from the xxxPropertyType complexTypes (the look like new GML3.2 artefacts) and got a valid XSD.

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unless I'm wrong, gml:_Feature is the 3.1 equivalent of gml:AbstractFeature

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Objet : Re: [auscope-geosciml] GeoSciML-Portrayal Schema [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

Hi Alistair,

1.  "Shouldn't that be 1.0?" - correct

2. I already tried changing the GML import and xmlns:gml="http://www.opengis.net/gml", but the schema then gives me validation errors regarding 'substitutionGroup' and 'gml:OwnershipAttributeGroup' that I don't know how to fix with confidence.

Comparing our GeoSciML v2 and GeoSciML v3 schemas suggests that the FeatureType substitutionGroup is "gml:_Feature" in gml3.1, but is "gml:AbstractFeature" in gml3.2, etc, etc.  These are GML technical details that I am not familiar enough with.

Cheers,
Ollie

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Hi Ollie,

Isn't it simply a matter of changing the GML import in the XSD from

<import namespace="http://www.opengis.net/gml/3.2" schemaLocation="http://schemas.opengis.net/gml/3.2.1/gml.xsd"/>

to

<import namespace="http://www.opengis.net/gml" schemaLocation="http://schemas.opengis.net/gml/3.1.1/base/gml.xsd"/>?

Also, I notice in one of Gilly's earlier emails that the publication URL was for version 3.0 (http://schemas.geosciml.org/geosciml-portrayal/3.0/). Shouldn't that be 1.0?

Cheers
Alistair

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Bruce, Gilly, Steve, Alistair, et al,

I had a quick look and unfortunately I think the differences between GML3.1 and GML3.2 schema encodings are beyond my limited manual editing skills.  I think we have to run the model through FullMoon again using a GML3.1 encoding.

I have updated the tagged values for xmlns, targetNamespace, schemaLocation and xsdDocument in the uml (GeoSciML-ThematicView.xml) in preparation for a new FullMoon run when Francois gets back in a week's time.

Cheers,
Ollie

PS. The GeoSciML-ThematicViewRC2.xml xmi file should be moved out of the trunk and into a tag or branch directory.

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Bruce, Ollie,

Do you want me to publish the new schema or hold it til a decision has been taken regarding gml version?

Cheers

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On 03/08/2011, at 2:51 PM, <Oliver.Raymond at ga.gov.au<mailto:Oliver.Raymond at ga.gov.au>> <Oliver.Raymond at ga.gov.au<mailto:Oliver.Raymond at ga.gov.au>> wrote:

Done.Â  Thereâ*?s a new geosciml-portrayal.xsd in the svn repository. Â I have left the old gsmltv schema doc there just so people can compare the old and new.

(The source element is indeed mandatory, so no change made there)

Cheers,
Ollie

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Hi Ollie,
If you can do it then I can reconfigure my (Alistair's) test services for further testing.

Cheers
Bruce

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Hi Bruce,

Editing the xsd schema doc on the svn (points 1, 3, 4 & 5) is a 5 minute job.  Let me know if youâ*?d like me to do that. (Francois is on hols for another week).  The UML model tags (for xmlns, schemaLocation, and xsdDocumentName) should also be updated to reflect the changes to the schema doc.

Gilly will have to upload the amended xsd doc to the geosciml.org<http://geosciml.org <http://geosciml.org/> > website, and change the schema location URI.

Cheers,
Ollie

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1. You are missing a mandatory gsmlp:source attribute.  (I think this is a mistake in the schema, because I thought all the attributes were intended to be optional.)
2. You are missing a gml:id on gml:Polygon

These were the configuration bugs I had to fix that I was referring to! 1. is easy, I'll need to seek external GeoServer help for 2.

I agree with points 3, 4 & 5. Can this be done in the Schema by Francois?

Bruce
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Hi Bruce et al,

Your Ben-corrected-gml3.2 instance does not validate for me because:

1. You are missing a mandatory gsmlp:source attribute.  (I think this is a mistake in the schema, because I thought all the attributes were intended to be optional.)

2. You are missing a gml:id on gml:Polygon

Additionally, I think there are some more things to fix in the GSML-Portrayal schema before final release.

3. The namespace does not conform to the pattern we have used for GeoSciML in path name and version number.  And â*?thematicviewâ*? should be replaced with â*?portrayalâ*?.

                xmlns:gsmlp=â*?http://geosciml.org/xmlns/geosciml-thematicview/1.0.0â*?

should be

               xmlns:gsmlp=â*?http://xmlns.geosciml.org/geosciml-portrayal/1.0â*?

4.  The schema location has the wrong version number, and schema doc name should be updated from â*?thematicviewâ*? to â*?portrayalâ*?

              http://schemas.geosciml.org/geosciml-portrayal/3.0/geosciml-thematicview.xsd

should be

              http://schemas.geosciml.org/geosciml-portrayal/1.0/geosciml-portrayal.xsd

5.  The prefix used in the schema doc is gsmltv (the old ThematicView prefix), but Bruce uses gsmlp for GSML-Portrayal in his WFS.  The schema doc should also probably use â*?gsmlpâ*? for consistency.

Cheers,
Ollie

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From: auscope-geosciml-bounces at lists.arcs.org.au<mailto:auscope-geosciml-bounces at lists.arcs.org.au> [mailto:auscope-geosciml-bounces at lists.arcs.org.au] On Behalf Of Bruce.Simons at dpi.vic.gov.au<mailto:Bruce.Simons at dpi.vic.gov.au>
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Subject: Re: [auscope-geosciml] GeoSciML-Portrayal Schema

Thanks Ben, you're a gem!
Now I can fix up the configuration bugs in the service.

This also explained why I couldn't get Alistair's GeoSciML v3 WFS to respond correctly.

Cheers
Bruce

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From:        Ben Caradoc-Davies <Ben.Caradoc-Davies at csiro.au<mailto:Ben.Caradoc-Davies at csiro.au>>
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Bruce,

because thematic view is a GML 3.2 schema, WFS 1.1 requests must specify
OUTPUTFORMAT=gml32 so that the service is permitted to return a GML 3.2
response. (WFS 1.1 is required to return a GML 3.1 response in the
absence of this parameter, and it will be invalid because GML 3.2
features are not in the GML 3.1 feature substitution group that permits
them to be contained in a WFS 1.1 FeatureCollection.)

Please try this:
http://geology.data.vic.gov.au/services-test/geosciml/testbed/250k/wfs?SERVICE=WFS&VERSION=1.1.0&REQUEST=GetFeature&TYPENAME=gsmlp:GeologicUnitView&MAXFEATURES=1&OUTPUTFORMAT=gml32

Kind regards,
Ben.

On 03/08/11 12:37, Bruce.Simons at dpi.vic.gov.au<mailto:Bruce.Simons at dpi.vic.gov.au> wrote:
> GSV's GeoSciML-Portrayal WFS responses are not validating. eg:
> http://geology.data.vic.gov.au/services-test/geosciml/testbed/250k/wfs?SERVICE=WFS&VERSION=1.1.0&REQUEST=GetFeature&TYPENAME=gsmlp:GeologicUnitView&MAXFEATURES=1
>
> The error is:
> "Element<gsmlp:GeologicUnitView>  is not allowed under element<gml:featureMember>."
>
> The schema being used is:
> xsi:schemaLocation="http://geosciml.org/xmlns/geosciml-thematicview/1.0.0 https://www.seegrid.csiro.au/subversion/GeoSciML/thematic_view/trunk/schema/geosciml-thematicview.xsd http://www.opengis.net/wfs http://schemas.opengis.net/wfs/1.1.0/wfs.xsd">
>
> Is this a problem with the GeoSciML-Portrayal schema or is the GSV service incorrectly configured?
>
> Bruce Simons
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