[auscope-geosciml] "Proportion" data type in GeoSciML v3 [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

Oliver.Raymond at ga.gov.au Oliver.Raymond at ga.gov.au
Mon Jan 24 22:40:20 EST 2011


Thanks Alistair.  Say we propose this as a straw man for a CGI standard?




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From: auscope-geosciml-bounces at lists.arcs.org.au [mailto:auscope-geosciml-bounces at lists.arcs.org.au] On Behalf Of Alistair Ritchie
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Subject: Re: [auscope-geosciml] "Proportion" data type in GeoSciML v3 [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

Hey Ollie,

This is what I've extracted from the CM:

trace [proportion]            Component constitutes less than or equal to 5 percent of the volume of the material.
minor [proportion]           Component constitutes less than or equal to 25 percent of the volume of the material.
major [proportion]           Component constitutes greater than or equal to 50 percent of the volume of the material.
subordinate                   Component constitutes less than or equal to 50 percent of the volume of the material.
dominant                                   Component constitutes greater than or equal to 75 percent of the volume of the material.
rare                                           Component constitutes less than or equal to 1 percent of the volume of the material.
all                                             Component constitutes effectively 100 percent of the volume of the material.
variable                         Component varies in proportion throughout the material.
significant                                  Component constitutes greater than 5 percent but less than 50 percent of the volume of the material.

Cheers,

Alistair Ritchie
GEOSCIENCE VICTORIA | EARTH RESOURCES DIVISION
Department of Primary Industries | Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
Tel: +61 3 9658 4512 | Fax: +61 3 9658 4555

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On 25 January 2011 14:01, <Oliver.Raymond at ga.gov.au<mailto:Oliver.Raymond at ga.gov.au>> wrote:
Hi Alistair,

You pre-empted my next question - what mappings from text to numbers do you use.  I have seen the following in our old GGIPAC vocabularies:
"major" = >25%, "minor" = <25%, "trace" = <5%

Is there an agreed numeric mapping of terms - eg, "dominant" and "subordinate" are relative proportion terms, not absolute proportions.  What is the full list of GSV mappings of proportion terms?

Cheers,
Ollie

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Subject: Re: [auscope-geosciml] "Proportion" data type in GeoSciML v3 [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

Should be part of the definition of 'dominant' etc. For example, from the definitions in GSV's Classification Manager:

dominant: 'Component constitutes greater than or equal to 75 percent of the volume of the material.'

<gsml:CGI_NumericRange>
    <gsml:lower>
        <gsml:CGI_NumericValue>
            <gsml:principalValue uom="http://some.uri/uom/percent">75</gsml:principalValue>
        </gsml:CGI_NumericValue>
    </gsml:lower>
    <gsml:upper>
        <gsml:CGI_NumericValue>
            <gsml:principalValue uom="http://some.uri/uom/percent">100</gsml:principalValue>
        </gsml:CGI_NumericValue>
    </gsml:upper>
</gsml:CGI_NumericRange>

and so on ...

Alistair Ritchie
GEOSCIENCE VICTORIA | EARTH RESOURCES DIVISION
Department of Primary Industries | Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
Tel: +61 3 9658 4512 | Fax: +61 3 9658 4555

"XML is like violence. If it doesn't solve the problem, use more." - Unknown

On 25 January 2011 13:39, <Bruce.Simons at dpi.vic.gov.au<mailto:Bruce.Simons at dpi.vic.gov.au>> wrote:
Hi Ollie,
The reasoning for numbers was that these are 'universally' searchable.  The intention here was that instead of mapping your local terms ('major', 'minor', 'dominant' etc) to a common CGI vocabulary, and then searching on that vocabulary, the data provider maps their terms directly to a numeric range.

Hey presto - instant interoperability without the need for a vocabulary service!

Cheers
Bruce Simons

Ph: +61-3-9658 4502
Fax: +61-3-9658 4555
Mobile: +61 429 177155



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Hi all,

I think we may have been a bit over zealous in constraining the model by limiting the various occurrences of "proportion" in GeoSciML v3 to be CGI_NumericRange (eg: GeologicUnitPart/proportion, CompositionPart/proportion).  I have found that my available "proportion" data is in the form of "major", "minor", "dominant", "trace", etc and I am unable to deliver this data in a numeric form.  Searching back through the instance docs of Testbed3 (GeoSciML v2 allowed text or numbers) indicates that text is the common format of "proportion" data, not numbers.

Can anyone remember the reasoning behind the change to numbers only for "proportion"?  Otherwise, I suggest we change the model to accommodate text values for "proportion".

Comments please,
Ollie

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National Geological Maps and Data Standards Project
Geoscience Australia

Interoperability Working Group
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