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Thu May 19 00:33:53 EDT 2011

At the Sydney OGC meeting The CGI IWG approached David Arctur to formalise 
the relationship between IUGS and OGC. The CGI Council is negotiating how 
this might work, as a number of GeoSciML participants are not OGC members.

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From:   <Simon.Cox at csiro.au>
To:     <auscope-geosciml at lists.arcs.org.au>
Date:   19/05/2011 01:16 PM
Subject:        Re: [auscope-geosciml] [ExternalEmail] This mailing list 
will be shut down
Sent by:        auscope-geosciml-bounces at lists.arcs.org.au

What Rob is pointing out here is that OGC has a Hydrology Domain Working 
group and a Met-Ocean Domain Working group, each of which take advantage 
of OGC's mailing lists, portal, wiki, etc. 
Alongside the HydroDWG there is a WaterML 2.0 Standards Working Group 
which is currently processing the WaterML 2.0 specification. 

Geo could get access to OGC infrastructure by setting up a Geo DWG, and 
then in due course there could be a GeoSciML 3.0 SWG to process GeoSciML 
as an OGC spec. 

However, there would then be an expectation that the GeoDWG would hold a 
2-3 hour meetings at least once a year at an OGC TC meeting. Furthermore 
the usual OGC conditions would have to waived if the group and list were 
to be made open to non-OGC members. However, there is precedent for this 
in the HydroDWG, which was set up in the context of a MOU with WMO who 
required that the lists and Wiki should be public. In our case we would 
want a similar arrangement, brokered with IUGS-CGI I guess. I would 
anticipate a favourable response from OGC who seem happy to welcome mature 
initiatives joining OGC at the moment. David Arctur would probably be the 
contact point. 

It would hardly be worth all this effort just to get access to the 
infrastructure (even though the IUGS infrastructure is essentially 
non-existent we could certainly muddle through using CSIRO or even Google 
with less effort). But perhaps the time is ripe for CGI/GeoSciML to 
establish a more formal connection with OGC. It would have to be approved 
by the CGI Council, however. 

Simon

-----Original Message-----
From: auscope-geosciml-bounces at lists.arcs.org.au [
mailto:auscope-geosciml-bounces at lists.arcs.org.au] On Behalf Of 
Rob.Atkinson at csiro.au
Sent: Thursday, 19 May 2011 10:56 AM
To: auscope-geosciml at lists.arcs.org.au
Subject: Re: [auscope-geosciml] [ExternalEmail] This mailing list will be 
shut down

Is the OGC is establishing a geo-domain working group, if so perhaps they 
can support this? That would mirror the hydro and met domain practices 
emerging. Assuming CGI doesn't have facilities? (not a very scalable 
solution for all domains though - unless OGC established some sort of low 
maintenance domain modelling collaboration workbench...)

It's been  moved _from_ SEEGRID - it feels retrograde to put it back. 

Rob

-----Original Message-----
From: auscope-geosciml-bounces at lists.arcs.org.au [
mailto:auscope-geosciml-bounces at lists.arcs.org.au] On Behalf Of Ben 
Caradoc-Davies
Sent: Thursday, 19 May 2011 12:48 PM
To: auscope-geosciml at lists.arcs.org.au
Subject: [ExternalEmail] [auscope-geosciml] This mailing list will be shut 
down

What is not mentioned in today's ARCS announcement is ongoing support 
for mailing lists, such as this one (look at the address). This is 
because there will be none.

*This mailing list will be shut down.*

There are several viable options for a new mailing list service, 
including Google and CSIRO's Mailman lists. Selection criteria should 
include:

- Avoiding the perception of organisational hegemony i.e. a CSIRO list 
might give the impression that CSIRO owns GeoSciML or can be blamed for 
it (I'm not saying that it can't [via Simon]!). But we accept this for 
SEEGrid, so maybe it is not a big deal.

- Level of technical support. Google is free: if it breaks or is 
compromised, you get your money back. CSIRO at least in theory provides 
technical support.

- Features, familiarity, and ease of administration. CSIRO uses Mailman, 
like this list.

What do youse want to do?

Kind regards,
Ben.

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: ARCS Communication - On-Going Support on TRAC/SVN at Intersect
Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 08:54:27 +0800
From: ARCS Communications <arcs at arcs.org.au>

Dear TRAC/SVN user

Funding for ARCS will cease on the 30th of June this year. INTERSECT has 
agreed to continue to provide access to your TRAC/SVN site until at 
least 30/6/2012.

After the 30th June, 2011, if you require assistance with your TRAC/SVN 
site you will need to contact INTERSECT at 
admin at intersect.org.au<mailto:admin at intersect.org.au>

If you require more information or wish to discuss this further, please 
contact me directly or contact the ARCS Service Desk by email 
customerservice at arcs.org.au<mailto:customerservice at arcs.org.au> or by 
calling 1800 862 727 from 9am to 5pm AEST Monday through Friday.

We thank you for your support of ARCS services in what has been an 
exciting 3 years for Australian eResearch and wish you excellent 
continuation of your research.

Sincerely

--

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Service Desk Manager

ARCS

eResearch SA

Room 115, Level 1, Physics Building

University of Adelaide

SA 5005 Australia

email: alex.vecchiarelli at arcs.org.au<http://alex.vecchiarelli@arcs.org.au>

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Software Engineering Team Leader
CSIRO Earth Science and Resource Engineering
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