[auscope-geosciml] [ExternalEmail] This mailing list will be shut down

Simon.Cox at csiro.au Simon.Cox at csiro.au
Thu May 19 00:52:08 EDT 2011


Like I said: the Hydro DWG mailing list and wiki are not restricted to members.
http://external.opengis.org/twiki_public/
https://lists.opengeospatial.org/mailman/listinfo/hydro.dwg

From: auscope-geosciml-bounces at lists.arcs.org.au [mailto:auscope-geosciml-bounces at lists.arcs.org.au] On Behalf Of Bruce.Simons at dpi.vic.gov.au
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At the Sydney OGC meeting The CGI IWG approached David Arctur to formalise the relationship between IUGS and OGC. The CGI Council is negotiating how this might work, as a number of GeoSciML participants are not OGC members.


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From:        <Simon.Cox at csiro.au>
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Date:        19/05/2011 01:16 PM
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What Rob is pointing out here is that OGC has a Hydrology Domain Working group and a Met-Ocean Domain Working group, each of which take advantage of OGC's mailing lists, portal, wiki, etc.
Alongside the HydroDWG there is a WaterML 2.0 Standards Working Group which is currently processing the WaterML 2.0 specification.

Geo could get access to OGC infrastructure by setting up a Geo DWG, and then in due course there could be a GeoSciML 3.0 SWG to process GeoSciML as an OGC spec.

However, there would then be an expectation that the GeoDWG would hold a 2-3 hour meetings at least once a year at an OGC TC meeting. Furthermore the usual OGC conditions would have to waived if the group and list were to be made open to non-OGC members. However, there is precedent for this in the HydroDWG, which was set up in the context of a MOU with WMO who required that the lists and Wiki should be public. In our case we would want a similar arrangement, brokered with IUGS-CGI I guess. I would anticipate a favourable response from OGC who seem happy to welcome mature initiatives joining OGC at the moment. David Arctur would probably be the contact point.

It would hardly be worth all this effort just to get access to the infrastructure (even though the IUGS infrastructure is essentially non-existent we could certainly muddle through using CSIRO or even Google with less effort). But perhaps the time is ripe for CGI/GeoSciML to establish a more formal connection with OGC. It would have to be approved by the CGI Council, however.

Simon

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From: auscope-geosciml-bounces at lists.arcs.org.au [mailto:auscope-geosciml-bounces at lists.arcs.org.au] On Behalf Of Rob.Atkinson at csiro.au
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Is the OGC is establishing a geo-domain working group, if so perhaps they can support this? That would mirror the hydro and met domain practices emerging. Assuming CGI doesn't have facilities? (not a very scalable solution for all domains though - unless OGC established some sort of low maintenance domain modelling collaboration workbench...)

It's been  moved _from_ SEEGRID - it feels retrograde to put it back.

Rob

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From: auscope-geosciml-bounces at lists.arcs.org.au [mailto:auscope-geosciml-bounces at lists.arcs.org.au] On Behalf Of Ben Caradoc-Davies
Sent: Thursday, 19 May 2011 12:48 PM
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Subject: [ExternalEmail] [auscope-geosciml] This mailing list will be shut down

What is not mentioned in today's ARCS announcement is ongoing support
for mailing lists, such as this one (look at the address). This is
because there will be none.

*This mailing list will be shut down.*

There are several viable options for a new mailing list service,
including Google and CSIRO's Mailman lists. Selection criteria should
include:

- Avoiding the perception of organisational hegemony i.e. a CSIRO list
might give the impression that CSIRO owns GeoSciML or can be blamed for
it (I'm not saying that it can't [via Simon]!). But we accept this for
SEEGrid, so maybe it is not a big deal.

- Level of technical support. Google is free: if it breaks or is
compromised, you get your money back. CSIRO at least in theory provides
technical support.

- Features, familiarity, and ease of administration. CSIRO uses Mailman,
like this list.

What do youse want to do?

Kind regards,
Ben.


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