[auscope-geosciml] [ExternalEmail] This mailing list will be shut down

Ben Caradoc-Davies Ben.Caradoc-Davies at csiro.au
Thu May 19 01:09:35 EDT 2011


And being Mailman, and hosted by OGC, it has all the usability we are 
used to with a level of support that we might not get from a free service.

On 19/05/11 12:52, Simon.Cox at csiro.au wrote:
> Like I said: the Hydro DWG mailing list and wiki are not restricted to members.
> http://external.opengis.org/twiki_public/
> https://lists.opengeospatial.org/mailman/listinfo/hydro.dwg
>
> From: auscope-geosciml-bounces at lists.arcs.org.au [mailto:auscope-geosciml-bounces at lists.arcs.org.au] On Behalf Of Bruce.Simons at dpi.vic.gov.au
> Sent: Thursday, 19 May 2011 12:34 PM
> To: auscope-geosciml at lists.arcs.org.au
> Subject: Re: [auscope-geosciml] [ExternalEmail] This mailing list will be shut down
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> At the Sydney OGC meeting The CGI IWG approached David Arctur to formalise the relationship between IUGS and OGC. The CGI Council is negotiating how this might work, as a number of GeoSciML participants are not OGC members.
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> From:<Simon.Cox at csiro.au>
> To:<auscope-geosciml at lists.arcs.org.au>
> Date:        19/05/2011 01:16 PM
> Subject:        Re: [auscope-geosciml] [ExternalEmail] This mailing list will be shut down
> Sent by:        auscope-geosciml-bounces at lists.arcs.org.au
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> What Rob is pointing out here is that OGC has a Hydrology Domain Working group and a Met-Ocean Domain Working group, each of which take advantage of OGC's mailing lists, portal, wiki, etc.
> Alongside the HydroDWG there is a WaterML 2.0 Standards Working Group which is currently processing the WaterML 2.0 specification.
>
> Geo could get access to OGC infrastructure by setting up a Geo DWG, and then in due course there could be a GeoSciML 3.0 SWG to process GeoSciML as an OGC spec.
>
> However, there would then be an expectation that the GeoDWG would hold a 2-3 hour meetings at least once a year at an OGC TC meeting. Furthermore the usual OGC conditions would have to waived if the group and list were to be made open to non-OGC members. However, there is precedent for this in the HydroDWG, which was set up in the context of a MOU with WMO who required that the lists and Wiki should be public. In our case we would want a similar arrangement, brokered with IUGS-CGI I guess. I would anticipate a favourable response from OGC who seem happy to welcome mature initiatives joining OGC at the moment. David Arctur would probably be the contact point.
>
> It would hardly be worth all this effort just to get access to the infrastructure (even though the IUGS infrastructure is essentially non-existent we could certainly muddle through using CSIRO or even Google with less effort). But perhaps the time is ripe for CGI/GeoSciML to establish a more formal connection with OGC. It would have to be approved by the CGI Council, however.
>
> Simon
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: auscope-geosciml-bounces at lists.arcs.org.au [mailto:auscope-geosciml-bounces at lists.arcs.org.au] On Behalf Of Rob.Atkinson at csiro.au
> Sent: Thursday, 19 May 2011 10:56 AM
> To: auscope-geosciml at lists.arcs.org.au
> Subject: Re: [auscope-geosciml] [ExternalEmail] This mailing list will be shut down
>
> Is the OGC is establishing a geo-domain working group, if so perhaps they can support this? That would mirror the hydro and met domain practices emerging. Assuming CGI doesn't have facilities? (not a very scalable solution for all domains though - unless OGC established some sort of low maintenance domain modelling collaboration workbench...)
>
> It's been  moved _from_ SEEGRID - it feels retrograde to put it back.
>
> Rob
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: auscope-geosciml-bounces at lists.arcs.org.au [mailto:auscope-geosciml-bounces at lists.arcs.org.au] On Behalf Of Ben Caradoc-Davies
> Sent: Thursday, 19 May 2011 12:48 PM
> To: auscope-geosciml at lists.arcs.org.au
> Subject: [ExternalEmail] [auscope-geosciml] This mailing list will be shut down
>
> What is not mentioned in today's ARCS announcement is ongoing support
> for mailing lists, such as this one (look at the address). This is
> because there will be none.
>
> *This mailing list will be shut down.*
>
> There are several viable options for a new mailing list service,
> including Google and CSIRO's Mailman lists. Selection criteria should
> include:
>
> - Avoiding the perception of organisational hegemony i.e. a CSIRO list
> might give the impression that CSIRO owns GeoSciML or can be blamed for
> it (I'm not saying that it can't [via Simon]!). But we accept this for
> SEEGrid, so maybe it is not a big deal.
>
> - Level of technical support. Google is free: if it breaks or is
> compromised, you get your money back. CSIRO at least in theory provides
> technical support.
>
> - Features, familiarity, and ease of administration. CSIRO uses Mailman,
> like this list.
>
> What do youse want to do?
>
> Kind regards,
> Ben.
>
>
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